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  25. <title>How Spanish administrations reuse software - an interview with Elena Muñoz Salinero about best practices.</title>
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  28. <h1>How Spanish administrations reuse software - an interview with Elena Muñoz Salinero about best practices.</h1>
  29. <p newsteaser="yes">The Technology Transfer Centre (CTT) is an initiative run by the Spanish government whose goal is to facilitate sharing and reuse of software and services among public administrations. To shed light on this best practice, we have conducted an interview with Elena Muñoz Salinero, head of CTT, to ask her about the legal, political and technological background of the CTT.
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  31. <p>In a first interview of a series related to our <a href="http://publiccode.eu/">Public Money? Public Code! campaign</a>, we have asked <a href="https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/sharing-and-reuse-it-solutions/elena-munoz-salinero">Elena Muñoz Salinero</a>, Head of Telematics Systems Area within the General Secretary of Digital Administration in the Ministry of Finance and Public Function of Spain. In this role, she leads the Technology Transfer Centre of the Spanish Government, whose objective is to favor the re-use of software solutions between public administrations by publishing code under Free Software licenses. Read about the juridical and technical background of the CTT as well as obligations on the Spanish administration to use and reuse Free Software, about license questions and how other administrations and users even outside of Spain can benefit.</p>
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  34. <p>Elena Muñoz graduated in Telecommunications Engineering at Polytechnics University of Madrid and joined the General State Administration in 2003. Now she is Head of Telematics Systems Area within the General Secretary of Digital Administration in the Ministry of Finance and Public Function of Spain. Since 2007, among other activities, she has worked in the field of reuse of applications and services provided by public administrations and she leads the initiative of the Technology Transfer Centre of the Spanish Government.</p>
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  36. <p class="question">FSFE: You are leading the Technology Transfer Centre
  37. (CTT) of the Spanish Government, whose goal is to favor the re-use of
  38. software solutions between public administrations. Can you explain in
  39. short the legal and political background of the CTT and what you are
  40. doing exactly to achieve this goal?</p>
  41. <p>As you have said, the <a href="http://administracionelectronica.gob.es/ctt">Technology Transfer Centre (“CTT”)</a> publishes a repository of software solutions provided by Spanish public administrations (local,
  42. regional and national levels). It also allows the
  43. collaborative development of information technology programs for
  44. e-government in the <a href="https://github.com/ctt-gob-es">CTT-Forge</a>, right now integrated in GitHub.</p>
  45. <p>The CTT origin dates back to 2007, as the answer to the legal
  46. mandate established by Article 46 of the 11/2007 Law for Citizens
  47. Electronic Access to Public Services. At that time it was already seen
  48. that having electronic public services at all administrations levels
  49. was only possible, in an efficient way, if public administrations
  50. could share their progress. The reuse requirements were extended in
  51. our National Interoperability Framework.</p>
  52. <p>And finally, in 2016, entered into force new requirements updated (and increased) in
  53. articles 157 and 158 of the new law 40/2015 of legal regime of public
  54. sector, the basic law for all the Spanish public sector which defines
  55. how public administrations should work. As you can see, the sharing
  56. and reuse of ICTs concept in Spain is a fundamental basis.</p>
  57. <p class="question">FSFE: Is CTT only offering Free Software solutions, meaning
  58. code that is published under a Free Software or Open Source license?
  59. If so, do you know what is the most favorited software license used by
  60. Spanish administrations?</p>
  61. <p>From the beginning, we thought that “sharing and reuse” is a broader
  62. concept than “free software”. For us,
  63. this concept has always also been linked to the reuse of services, the
  64. nowadays called “cloud services”.</p>
  65. <p>In the CTT, you can find many different kinds of reusable solutions:
  66. applications, common services, semantic assets, etc.
  67. Even the applications can be totally open source, only “open source”
  68. for public administrations or only for use in the public sector.
  69. It is a decision of the provider.</p>
  70. <p>Our general recommendation and preferred licence is the EUPL
  71. (European Union Public Licence). Although of course we accept any
  72. other open source licence.</p>
  73. <p class="question">FSFE: Within the Technology Transfer Centre are you hosting the code of software yourself or do you mainly run kind of a database of available solutions and than you route visitors to the other project's code hosting platform?</p>
  74. <p>In this case the answer is “both”. We are a
  75. “kind of database” of available solutions but you can choose between
  76. hosting the code in the CTT, hosting it in the CTT-forge (in GitHub)
  77. or hosting it in any other platform. We are very flexible.</p>
  78. <blockquote class="highlight"><p>"The main concept is that Public
  79. Administrations should share their own developed
  80. applications if another Public Administration asks for them."</p></blockquote>
  81. <p class="question">FSFE: Is it obligatory for a public administration to
  82. consider CTT and to favor a reusable Free Software solution over other
  83. solutions, including even cheaper options of proprietary software? In
  84. practice, how is the obligation implemented?</p>
  85. <p>The main concept is that Public Administrations should share their own developed
  86. applications if another Public Administration asks for them. Of
  87. course, they must have the intellectual rights to doing so.</p>
  88. <p>The new law also says that, before developing something new, Public
  89. Administrations should check if there is an application or service
  90. similar in the CTT. And in that case they must reuse it.</p>
  91. <p>However, if you can justify that there is a cheaper option for your
  92. organization using any other solution (open source or proprietary) you
  93. can go ahead with it.</p>
  94. <p class="question">FSFE: Do you also help other administrations pro-actively
  95. or in case they ask you to find a solution for them, that fits?
  96. Or do they have to find a solution on
  97. their own? Do you offer any kind of service help?</p>
  98. <p>Each solution is responsible for offering its own support but it is not
  99. compulsory. They are contributing it for free so it is up to them
  100. whether to provide support or not. Our ministry is indeed one of the
  101. biggest providers of reusable solutions for other public
  102. administrations. We provide many open source applications and many
  103. cloud services to all public administrations, we try to cover the
  104. major needs for the provision of e-government services. In these
  105. cases, we provide support for anyone trying to use them.</p>
  106. <p class="question">FSFE: What about Software that is still developed by
  107. administrations inside Spain or that has been developed but maybe is
  108. not yet Free Software? Are you helping these administrations to free
  109. their software and put it into your repository? Do you offer legal or
  110. community support?</p>
  111. <p>We help public administrations trying to free their software in different ways. For them, we have developed a very interesting guide <a href="http://administracionelectronica.gob.es/PAe/NTinteroperabilidad#REUTILIZACIONYTRANSFERENCIA">Asset Reuse - Guide to Asset Publication and Licensing</a>. The CTT also offers a support service where you can ask questions about the process, how to choose the license, etc. And of course, we are intensive users of the support of the European Commission regarding EUPL available in JOINUP. </p>
  112. <p class="question">FSFE: In last year's Share and re-use conference, Spain was awarded
  113. best with four awards in three categories for four different Free
  114. Software solutions. Do you think that Free Software is an important or
  115. growing topic inside the administrative culture of Spain?</p>
  116. <p>These awards are just the proof and the recognition of all the efforts that
  117. have been carried out for many years in Spain. Free software is not
  118. just a growing topic in Spanish administrative culture but a
  119. consolidated fact.</p>
  120. <p class="question">FSFE: How is the general acceptance and feedback towards
  121. CTT across the administrations throughout Spain?</p>
  122. <p>The feedback is very positive in all senses. We have many providers and many reusers.</p>
  123. <blockquote class="highlight"><p>"There is still needed a major cultural change, bear in
  124. mind, from scratch, that the software developed should be reusable in
  125. the future"</p></blockquote>
  126. <p>However the general complaint is the diversity of open source licenses. If we had
  127. only an extremely reduced set, the analysis for freeing the software
  128. will be much simpler and many more providers will be eager to freeing
  129. their solutions having all the guarantees.</p>
  130. <p>The other drawback is that software reuse is not easy. The bigger the product the more
  131. difficult it is to reuse it. All products produced in public
  132. administrations (and in any other big company) are much customized for
  133. the specific characteristics and behavior of that organization. In
  134. general, they have not been developed bearing in mind that any other
  135. could reuse it, therefore, there is always needed some efforts
  136. (sometimes quite a big one) to adapt it to the new environment.</p>
  137. <p>There is still needed a major cultural change, bear in
  138. mind, from scratch, that the software developed should be reusable in
  139. the future.</p>
  140. <p class="question">FSFE: Would it be possible
  141. for an administration outside Spain to find help in your service or to
  142. add software solutions to it?</p>
  143. <p>Any public administration, from
  144. inside or outside Spain, can be a user and a contributor to any of our
  145. open source solutions. However, we only provide support and add
  146. solutions from Spanish public administrations.</p>
  147. <p class="question">FSFE: Is there any way for our readers who do not work in a
  148. Spanish administration to help and contribute to the repository of CTT
  149. or the software solutions offered?</p>
  150. <p>Yes, of course. Many of the solutions are already in GitHub
  151. where you can help and contribute as you do to any other one.
  152. Additionally, some of the open source solutions are working as an
  153. established open source community where anyone can contribute.</p>
  154. <p><em>Interviewer: Erik Albers</em></p>
  155. <blockquote>With our <a href="http://publiccode.eu/">Public Money? Public Code! campaign</a>, the FSFE demands that publicly financed software developed for the public sector shall be made publicly available under a Free and Open Source Software licence. In order to help understand our call and its benefits, we run a series of interviews that highlight good examples and use-cases as best practices. Our interview partners will be policy makers and decision takers, authorities and developers, that in one way or another are already implementing public code. </blockquote>
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