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<h1>SFP#51: Policy and EU: The challenges for public code in public administration!</h1>
<p>In this monthly Software Freedom Podcast episode we are talking with the Nordic Institute
for Interoperability Solutions (NIIS) and their X-Road, a Free Software well-used in public
institutions. Together with Johannes Näder from the FSFE, and Petteri Kivimäki (NIIS) we
discussed the current challenges that Free and Open Source Projects meet in public institutions.
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<p>With the SFP#51 the FSFE dives into the topic of digital sovereignty through Free Software
and the current challenges for Free Software projects in public administrations. X-Road,
maintained by NIIS, is a well-used Free and Open Source Software project in public institutions.
It is used in severral countries and has a stable development through the organisation with the
support of eight public bodies. Meanwhile, the FSFE's initiative "Public Money? Public Code!" is
gaining more attention and becoming a well-used phrase in political discussions.</p>
<p>Still Free Software is not yet adopted in all the institutions and there are several challenges
ahead for the Free Software ecosystem. With our 51st episode Johannes, Petteri and Bonnie take a
deep look at those challenges and how some could be overcome.
</p>
<p>
The FSFE's policy work is an important part of our aim to safeguard
Software Freedom. You can support our work by
<fsfe-cd-donate-link>donating</fsfe-cd-donate-link> today!
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<p>Show notes</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="/donate">Support our work for Free Software</a></li>
<li><a href="https://publiccode.eu/">Public Money? Public Code!</a></li>
<li><a href="https://download.fsfe.org/campaigns/pmpc/PMPC-Modernising-with-Free-Software.pdf">PMPC Brochure with X-Road</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.niis.org/">Nordic Institute for Interoperability Solutions (NIIS)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x-road.global/">X-Road®</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/nordic-institute/X-Road/"> X-Road (Github repository)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-lightning-talks-tag-2#t=6819">39C3 Lightning Talks Day 2 with X-Road</a></li>
<li><a href="/news/newsletter.html">Stay up-to-date and join our Newsletter</a></li>
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and especially on the <a href="/news/podcast/transcript/2026/episode-51.html?ref=download">transcript
of the episode</a>. Please, email us to: <email mailto="yes">podcast@fsfe.org</email>. If you liked this episode and
want to support our continuous work for software freedom, please help us
with a <fsfe-cd-donate-link>donation</fsfe-cd-donate-link>.</p>
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